Thursday, December 24, 2009

Can Progressive-Liberals admit that Obama lied to them? (to Joe Wilson too?)

Liberals Dream : the skilled liberal Politician that 'everyone' believes outwitting Republicans

When Obama promised us that there would be no middle class tax increases the progressive-liberals thought: "This is great. Our Obama can get the voters to believe anything". When Obama said that Abortion and Illegals would not be covered under 'Obama-HealthCare-Reform', Libs thought: "Finally we have a progressive leader that will sign into law what we want while convincing the stupid voters that Democrats are passing what they want". Even now Obama is claiming the Obama-care will reduce the deficit based on phony use of CBO numbers.
When Joe Wilson called Obama a liar during a Presidential address, Libs said: "Republicans will get crucified for challenging our great loved trusted leader".

But he’s not supposed to lie to his own liberal base, just to us

But what happens when Obama tries to use those famous magical deceptive skills AGAINST his own liberal base for pure political reasons? With the Senate's Health Reform bill barely passed by 60 votes and Obama needing any bill to pass he tells the Washington Post that he never campaigned for the public option.
Reference links :
1) Obama said the public option "has become a source of ideological contention between the left and right." But, he added, "I didn't campaign on the public option."
2) Washington Post : "I didn't campaign on the public option,"

I know most of you avoid MSNBC's program Countdown, but on Wednesday 12/23/2009 left wing Lawrence O'Donnell guest hosting aired a great documentary of all the times Obama promised liberals a public health care option. Most of these promises were speeches in front of liberal groups which is very galling for them considering his betrayal. The program started with that clip where Obama told a reporter just this week he never ever campaigned for a public option. A similar analysis of Obama's promises to liberals is written here: Huffington Post:Did Obama Campaign On The Public Option? Yes But Not Entirely. To make matters worse the show also documented where Obama campaigned against the personal health insurance mandate he is supporting now. Obama this week said that the Senate bill historically passed on Christmas Eve with the personal mandated coverage in, and the public insurance option out, meets all his original requirements for Health Care Reform (but we know he will say ANY bill passed to him would do that now.) Progressives were very coldly thrown under the bus by Obama. Highlights from the MSNBC mini-documentary on Obama's public option promises is here:MSNBC (Effectively) Pins Obama Down on Public Option Rhetoric . Senator Joe Lieberman came out last week and said that Obama never even asked him to support a public option, this being really galling to liberals who had been demanding all along Obama and Reid get tough with Lieberman. Lieberman: Obama Never Pressed Me On Public Option

Obama strung his base along for Political reasons

O'Donnell and his guests speculated that Obama, Reid and Pelosi knew all along that the public option couldn't pass the Senate but they needed to keep liberals on board to get their votes in the end compromise,which hasn't come yet. O'Donnell (like myself) had soberly predicted all along , meaning through the summer, that the house liberal's dream of budget reconciliation needing only 50 votes in the Senate was nothing but an empty threat to keep the liberals support. Back last August I called reconciliation 'The empty gun on the table'. Reconciliation is an empty threat: August 19, 2009 by sickoflibs

Personal Mandate sells us to those Evil Greedy Insurance Companies that were the original problem

hat is killing the Libs the most is the personal mandate to buy health insurance policies from the health insurance companies. These are the same health insurance companies that Obama demonized as wanting to kill us for profits, to get liberals fired up much like Moore's movie Sicko did. Did you ever think you would see this day? While conservatives are challenging the constitutionality of the personal insurance mandate: DeMint to force vote on constitutionality of mandate some liberals are also questioning the constitutionality of the personal mandate Democrat Underground : Healthcare Mandate vs. U.S. Constitution and Genius Envy: Ed Schultz Repudiates Ed Schultz (Says Mandatory Insurance Violates "Liberty"!). Check out this progressive-liberal activist who is regular on MSNBC teaming with Grover Norquist to bring down the Senate health reform bill. Top 10 Reasons to Kill the Senate Health Care Bill (liberal Jane Hamsher 12/25/09)

Can liberals finally admit it?

So given such evidence displayed on liberal shows and blogs that Obama's repeated promises to progressive liberals were insincere; and that he used the promises for pure political purposes; can they finally admit that Obama lied to them? Can they admit that Obama is a liar? Can they admit Joe Wilson was right?

Reference links posted above :
Reconciliation is an empty threat: August 19, 2009 by sickoflibs

Lieberman: Obama Never Pressed Me On Public Option said the public option "has become a source of ideological contention between the left and right." But, he added, "I didn't campaign on the public option."

Washington Post : "I didn't campaign on the public option,"

Huffington Post : Did Obama Campaign On The Public Option? Yes But Not Entirely

Genius Envy: Ed Schultz Repudiates Ed Schultz (Says Mandatory Insurance Violates "Liberty"!)

Tuesday, December 22, 2009

This Obama-Care Reform Bill Can still be killed

It is not too late to kill this Health Reform bill at Conference. As I have said repeatedly: it’s not the Republicans that have the power, it’s the liberal ‘single payer-public plan-pro-abortion’ progressives (liberals) that do. If you have been following my posts they are hopping mad about being sold out by Obama and the Democrat leadership (and we know how that feels with Republicans.) The bill just about to be passed in the Senate dropped both the public plan and Medicare expansion and has some restrictions on publicly paid abortions opposed by the pro-choice/abortion group. It was passed by bribing certain Senators like Nelson in certain states at the expense of all the others. What should be galling to liberals is that the Senators that got the goodies are the moderate holdouts who made the bill toxic to them.

What opponents of the bill need to do is to contact house members in Democrat states and communicate their outrage, not only at the sellout but at the bribes given to a few moderate states. Ironically, it’s the liberal states that got screwed the most because they not only lost their key socialist demands, but they didn’t get the goodies moderate holdouts got. Now I am not suggesting that we call liberal house members ourselves and pose as democrats (wink,wink). That would be very wrong (wink, wink.) But if someone was to call the Democrat house members (listed at these liberal links Call Congress: Take the Pledge for the Public Option and Sorry, Can’t Pass Health Care Bill Without A Public Option), the following are things to say if you are a liberal or posing as one for fun (I am not suggesting we do this):

1) This is just a payoff to the health insurance companies who now get taxpayer money and millions of forced customers with no competition. You sold us into slavery to the Health Insurance companies. This is just like TARP!
2) Where is the public plan competition that keeps health insurance companies honest? How much did the insurance companies pay you? Now Obama denies he ever promised a public option when he ran on it in the primary and those videos are being shown on MSNBC.
3) Our state gets ripped off. Senators Nelson (Nebraska) and Landrieu (Louisiana Purchase #2) got huge payoffs for their states. What goodies (for us) did you hold out for? You sold us out for pennies.
4) Why are you taxing my health insurance plan? Obama promised NO middle class tax cuts.
5)This Bill takes away a woman’s right to choose (to have others pay for my abortion.)
6)If I wanted to be sold out to corporations I would have voted for McCain.
7) We will not come out to vote for you in 2010 unless you do us right.

Don't forget to mention that Harry Reid said on camera that any Democrat Senator that didnt hold out for special goodies is a not a good representative.

Reference this video:Harry Reid Slams Foolish Dem Senators Who Did Not Demand Goodies For Their Obamacare Vote

Things Lib’s won’t say to elected liberal Democrats that we would like to say:
1) This is a Government takeover of Health care (because liberals actually want this to happen)
2) This is Socialism, Marxism, communism, Fascism, and evil (liberals don't talk like this)
3) Where was Obama really born??? (I threw this in for fun)

Of course we don’t want moderate democrats to give in to the socialists either. So they must be called too and threatened but with the second list above.

Thursday, December 17, 2009

Democrats: 'The Party of No' (to themselves???')

This infighting between democrats is getting out of hand. Now the White House had to suspend it's war on Fox News Channel to attack liberals who are opposing Obama-care. Howard Dean is the new target of the White House attack machine. (At link White House Says Howard Dean’s Arguments Against Democrats’ Health Care Reform ‘Simply Weren’t True,’ Suggests He’s Not Rational)

One of their biggest supporters MSNBC (The Ed Show) Ed Schulz got in a debate with Obama's senior advisor David Axolrod on 'The Morning Joe' show today over the Senate Health Reform bill. On The Ed Show Clinton's Lanny Davis got called a Health insurance company stooge by Firedoglake's Jane Hamsher (Video here) for suggesting that the current Senate bill is better than nothing. Here's a sample of what he got from her:“which drug companies and health corporations are you speaking for when you tout this bill?” “Who’s paying you to be here?”

I am concerned for America folks. Has the Democrat Party become the party of NO to themselves?? Do Democrats want our President to fail? Didnt they tell us that's the same as wanting America to fail? Has MSNBC just become another wing of the evil forces attacking our president to keep him from fixing America's problems? Where is this country headed with all this hate?

Here's a few more left wing hate sources attacking our President : Obama Do You REALLY Want A Healthcare Bill? Democrats' Health `Reform' Bill: Kill It Before It Comes to Life!

DU:How any respect or trust left I had for this White House was destroyed in one day

DU:Nation's Largest Union (AFL-CIO) : Change Health Care Bill Or Else

DU:The Health Care Bill: As Wicked as the Mandates Are, This Is Even Worse.

DU:Angry Liberals: Why didn't Barack Obama fight?

Wednesday, December 16, 2009

Democrat Underground (DU) Rage, Turning on 'The One' ?? NOOOO!

You know I can tolerate Democrats turning on each other. But I have to draw the line on Obama bashing. He is "the One"! Remember the days in the Spring when Obama's popularity was going to get every thing he wanted passed? What happened to that DU line "It will take eight years to clean up this mess" ? Liberals turning on him in less than 11 months. Does this mean the campaign is over? Hope and Change over yet? If he loses democrats, who is left? (Not me!)

Checkout the goldmine of complaining I found at DU:

The Self-Destruction of Barack Obama

Do you stand with Dr. Dean?(to Kill the Bill?)

This theory I posted on FR since the summer. Many Freepers thought I was crazy :

FEINGOLD: Don't Blame Lieberman-Blame Obama-The Bill Is What "The President Wanted In The 1st Place"

OK, I'm ready to blame Obama

White House Finally Decides to Get Tough on a Political Opponent (our Howard Dean)

Barack Obama, Inc. -Representing Us Or Corporate America? (Huffington Post)

Tuesday, December 15, 2009

Support Progressives Defeating Obama-care

Senate Deal ?? This is getting dangerously close. The House passed something, now the Democrat Senate leadership and Obama says they have abandoned both a public option and an expansion of medicare. Our problem is NOT RINOs, nor DINOs (Democrats in Name only) nor Republicans, it is those liberal progressives that can make this Obama-care reform pass. The Senate is close to a 2008 victory (not the final victory fortunately.) But it's not too late to have a Democrat meltdown.

Challenge to Progressives : Look! You gave in on single payer, you gave in on abortion (in the House anyway). Now you are giving in on the Public Plan and Medicare expansion ?? Is this what you elected Obama for?? Karl Marx is turning over in his grave. And I am tired of this focus on Leiberman. Your 'chosen one' Obama betrayed you. He so wants a legislative success so bad that he is willing to stab in the back millions of democrat supporters that campaigned for free health care(er Obama.). Corporations have money, banks have money, those evil Republicans have money, take it and give us free health care ! Our stimulus plan worked. We killed millions of jobs as planned and now all the unemployed need free health care. You have no excuses. Stop everything in the Senate and have the House write a Budget Reconciliation bill that requires only 51 votes in the Senate(50 plus VP Biden.). Do it right, not now! We can wait another 6-8 months. Really! We can pass it next October just in time for the election.

To Conservatives : I am getting worried. Some progressives are saying they need to pass anything now and fix it later. They still have a uphill climb, but this was Obama and Reid's plan all along to sell out liberals if need be. The next step (assuming the Senate is successful) is for Pelosi to put the knife in the backs of progressives at conference. It's up to us to encourage our socialist friends to draw the line in the sand for the public plan. We also need to call moderate Dems and tell them to draw the line in the sand, against public plan. Support both sides !

Use this MOST IMPORTANT tool at liberal to destroy health reform:
Progressive members of Congress need to draw a line in the sand and demand a public health insurance option -- something 76% of Americans want. We need you to call progressive members of Congress and ask that they 'Take the Pledge' to vote against any health care bill that doesn't have a public plan :Fire dog Lake: tool to get Dems in Congress to draw a line in the sand.

Some liberal supporters of democrat defeat(I hate it when they are upset like this) : post :Progressives Return Fire, Demand To Kill The Bill and
DU post :Howard Dean: “Kill The Senate Bill” and
DU post : I'm DONE!!! Democratic Party can go to hell for all I care and
DU post: Joe Lieberman and the Health Care Train Wreck

Friday, November 27, 2009

Not a happy Thanksgiving for libs at DU

You folks remember a year ago Thanksgiving 2008? Liberals were celebrating, conservatives were commiserating about the end of the world. Well a year later and it is not a very happy Thanksgiving for our Liberal/Progressive friends. Before I brighten your day here's a little comment I posted the day after election 2008 :

"Come January Obama’s days of gaining anybody is over. The whole game changes, the demon GWB is out, Pelosi/ Obama is in. Come January their party is over as all cameras are on them. And we reunite after many years in a common cause (finally) with the resistance. Our curse GWB/McCain is lifted, from darkness comes the light. "

At: 6 posted on Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:26:19 PM by sickoflibs ( Where were McCain's moderates and illegals on election day?)

Now check out this DU post the other day (entire post at link):

"The calendar has come around again to Thanksgiving, and families all over the country will be gathering around dinner tables to celebrate. Or try to, anyway. With unemployment above ten percent, and with actual unemployment closer to twenty percent, with foreclosures all over the place, with wages dropping and food prices rising, with the economy improving only for those who have lots of money, there will be millions of people without a whole hell of a lot to feel thankful for."

Ten months after the inauguration of Barack Obama, those "Yes We Can" and "Hope" slogans have begun to ring more than a little hollow...

Speaking of domestic policy, the much-ballyhooed push to reform America's health care system has gone completely sideways in the hands of Congress people bought off by insurance and pharmaceutical industries, and in the hands of a president who demanded change but has taken three steps back for every one step forward. The result looks to be a watered down farce of a bill that could very well make matters even worse than they already are.

All we as Americans can do is work to push these elected officials away from the abyss they have us teetering over, and hope that there will be something to be thankful for next year. For now, however, just about everything before us is either worse or exactly as bad as it was before. Not much to be thankful about here.

At : DU post Nov 27th 2009: Oh Fa Chrissake...Unhappy Thanksgiving